Dennis talks with Jason Edwards, senior pastor of Second Baptist Church in Liberty, Missouri, about his Baptist News Global essay on democracy as a moral practice, sparked by a well-known 2008 moment when Senator John McCain corrected a supporter's false claim about Barack Obama. The conversation moves from there into how churches form — or fail to form — people capable of living alongside those they disagree with, including a candid look at emotional health as part of discipleship.
They also touch on Jason's forthcoming book, At Home with God: How the Cross Transforms Us, built around the image of a house with many windows — each theory of the atonement offering a true but partial glimpse of something too vast to fully see.
In this episode:
• Why Jason calls democracy "a moral practice" rather than just a system
• The McCain moment that shaped his thinking
• How churches can cultivate — or undermine — emotional maturity
• A preview of At Home with God and its "house with many windows" approach to atonement
Links:
• Jason's essay, "Democracy as a moral practice, not just a system" (https://baptistnews.com/?p=191339) (Baptist News Global)
• Jason G. Edwards on Substack (https://jasongedwards.substack.com)
• At Home with God: How the Cross Transforms Us (https://ivpress.com/at-home-with-god) (IVP, November 2026)
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