January 6 in Three Acts with Andrew Donaldson and Dennis Sanders | Episode 168

[00:00:00] Thanks for watching! episode, I'm doing this one, because this is the three year anniversary of January six. And because this is an election year, everyone is focusing on this, especially of course, because it looks very likely that Donald Trump, who was president on January 6 2021, will be the GOP nominee again.

[00:02:44] of reposting it, but I wanted to make sure it would still hold up. And it does.

[00:02:46] And it's interesting listening to that interview with Andrew that I think since then I have

[00:02:53] moved closer to his viewpoint.

[00:02:56] And I will let you listen to the interview to do that. There's more than enough time to talk about that. And I think that I wanted to let this episode from 2022 speak for itself.

[00:04:23] And it is still, Iab, here is this episode January 6th in three acts. And what we're going to be doing is talking about it in the three ways. The first is actually going back a year ago, I I think it's important to hear how he, his spin on it, his viewpoint. And so that's gonna be about maybe 10, 15 minutes long. And then we will conclude with my own thoughts

[00:08:20] about January 6th today and kind of where we're headed.

[00:09:27] And these are the my thoughts and I believe I did this maybe around 5.30 or so. So it was a few hours after some of the kind of most intense parts of the

[00:09:34] insurrection. So let's hear from So dear brothers and sisters in Christ, it has been a hard, hard time to do work this afternoon.

[00:12:21] And I say that truthfully. By now most of you know what happened at the Capitol building in Congress to be breached. But right now I'm also fearful for all of us as a nation. We have learned too well how to otherwise people who have a different politics than we do or who have different ideas from us,

[00:12:24] who come from a different racial or ethnic background. hearts to love one another, eyes to see everyone friend or foe in the child God. May your presence calm the crowds, and may we learn how to live with each other in spite of our differences. We ask this in your son's name, Jesus Christ, and in the name of your spirit of peace

[00:16:21] So, first off, I kind of wanted to of this committee. I don't think the committee was the appropriate venue for this for a lot of

[00:16:24] reasons. One is half the key to this whole thing. Meadows is the one who has vulnerabilities. He has some executive privilege protection, but not all of it like a President Trump would have. Meadows knows everything because he was the gatekeeper to the president. We know he has some untoward things in his past.

[00:17:44] He didn't decide to not be a congressman anymore

[00:17:46] and go be to Yorkshire staff for no reason. you know, all the different characters, commentators, people like that. So that stuff's all interesting, but I'm just going to reiterate again, are we really learning anything new? No, we're not. Did we not know that President Trump was MIA most of that day? We knew that. Did we not know that, you know, this thing, when it started on the mall, that it was planned to

[00:19:02] be a march to the Capitol and it got out of hand, smaller group number. And we're seeing now in the criminal cases, just like this, the more severe sentences are going to people who actually attacked police officers who actually did violence to police officers. They're getting the more severe-11? Look how good that did. I mean, we had a JFK commission, we had a 9-11 commission, we've had a couple other commissions over the... Government committees don't solve things.

[00:21:41] I think a lot of people want a reckoning.

[00:21:45] You are not getting a reckoning for January 6th. trial and you're going to get full justice. That's never going to happen. Nor are you ever going to get, you know, for the folks that think it was just tourists walking through the Capitol, which is ridiculous by the way. But we hear that. Nor are you going to get an exoneration because the truth is very much in the middle of that is you had some very bad people with very bad intentions. You had a larger group of people that got caught up in it

[00:23:00] and went along for the ride for various reasons.

[00:23:03] And then there was a very small group of people who

[00:23:05] is, theoretically, I would say, really, really 2024, what could happen? Do you think that? I guess I'm always wondering, is this, are we hyperventilating about this issue or is it something that we should be worried about? Yes. The answer to questions is yes. Here's the, not to This is generations of stuff built up. It's going to take generations to fix it. I think we're doing ourselves a very bad disservice. Look, again, I want to reiterate this because I don't want what I'm going to say taking out of context. I was horrified by it. I have very strong writing on it. You can go check what I'm saying against what I've written

[00:25:42] and said. I hated it. I watched a lot of that. We talked about the January 6th committee or commission or whatever we're calling them now. What's the biggest piece of this that we've always known?

[00:27:01] It's right in front of us.

[00:27:03] Well, the Capitol police fighting the mob, right?

[00:27:06] That's the main. Okay. If the congressional controlled law enforcement was the only ones on the line, for the most part, there was a few exceptions because people just jumped in. That tells me what I do that as much as I can. I just don't know that the constant relitigation is going to because the people that aren't super investigated and relitigating it are

[00:29:44] just going to start tuning that out. And the and you can see 3. And this is, I'm kind of titling it, waking up to a nightmare. And actually, it's part of something I'm writing, just dealing with a larger theme.

[00:31:03] But I think it's, adulthood was not too far away. 1983 was a memorable year. And I think 1983 was also the year the world could have ended. For anyone who can remember, 1983 was a time, I think, that the United States and the Soviet Union

[00:32:23] were probably at their lowest relations. They were not doing well. Their relations were the Union. And throughout that entire year, there were several flashpoints that could have really begun the nuclear conflagration. But the thing that brought us close to the brink was Abel Archer. For those of you who are Although, while the Soviets were basically thinking that World War III and Armageddon was just around the corner, no one in the West realized that we were basically stumbling towards what could have been the accidental start of the nuclear war.

[00:35:02] But for whatever reason, the was basically nervous about nuclear war. I mean, I freaked out. I did not watch the whole movie of the day after, but I only

[00:36:20] watched a few snippets.

[00:36:21] That was enough for me to not be able to sleep for a few days.

[00:36:26] All of this was building up and I find it at some point. January 6 is in some ways the image that is coming through our mind because it is such a visceral event. And if you skim through new sites, they're filled with opinion writers, and they're all wondering how long will American democracy survive? There was one article in Vox that said,

[00:37:40] How does this end?

[00:37:42] Where the crisis of American democracy might be headed. was done because of one man who had a hard time understanding that he could lose. And so we're all kind of running around, honest, there's a part of me that wants to think that if we need 6th about what happened on that date, but it is also the day of Epiphany for those of us who are Christians. Epiphany is the time when we talk about the visit of the scribes and learning about the scripture, he tells the wise men to go and find the king and let me know where he is so that I can worship him. Of course, which was a boldface law. He didn't want to worship the king. He just wanted to find out where he was because this guy Jesus was a threat.

[00:44:07] understand and who could not deal with a threat to his power. There are some strange parallels to what happened last January 6.

[00:44:15] But the thing is, I think that it's important to be reminded of is that we will face hard

[00:44:21] times.

[00:44:23] And I can't even tell you and know what things will happen. Terrible things will happen. How do we live during those experiences?

[00:45:40] How do we help each other?

[00:45:41] How do we not lose but ultimately in the end,

[00:47:01] evil will be defeated.

[00:47:04] It may not feel like that right now, but I think it will. That is what we put our trust in. 1983 could have been the year the world ended. Thankfully, it didn't. 2024 could be a year that will change America forever.

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[00:49:29] That is it for this episode of Enroot.

[00:49:34] Take care, everyone.

[00:49:36] In God's speed.